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Mon Dec 04, 2006
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Last Thursday I finally got pulled over for the exhaust on the 91 Golf.
I was only pulled over for a couple of minutes, and I didn't even get a
written warning so it may have just been a "drunk check", so to speak.
Anyhow, that got me thinking that I should start looking at new cat-back
systems for it. I've been real lucky not to have been pulled over at
all until now.
First off, I figured I should get a new catalytic converter at the same
time. The Golf used to burn a lot of oil (before I replaced the valve
stem seals) so the cat may have some clogging. In addition to that,
the previous owner had the mid-pipe welded to the catalytic converter.
Between those 2 things, I can't count 100% on being able to reuse the
existing cat. To top it off, I thought it would be nice to upgrade to
a 55mm cat, which was the largest that they used on any A2 Golf/Jetta
from the factory. I found a new OEM (Emico) cat at autohausaz.com for just over $150,
which is a pretty good deal. The 55mm cats were used on, among others,
the later 8 valve GTIs with the PF engine - so I kept that in mind while
looking for parts (mine is a Golf GL with the RV engine, at the moment).
Even though I wanted a stainless cat-back system, I didn't want to spend
the money for one (for the most part, they were $500 and up). I saw
that the Bosal stainless sport systems were not necessarily made entirely
of stainless steel (their description says all mufflers and "select systems",
whatever that means, are stainless), and I didn't want to spend almost $400
for a system that might end up being partly aluminized instead of
stainless. I did some more price checking online, and even priced out
a completely factory system (Ansa/Bosal) - which was looking like the
least amount of money. A factory system would have been a little too tame
for my taste, but I was considering it.
The next day I headed to
Atlantic to see what they could do for me, since I know they're good
about trying to match online prices. I won't disclose what I ended up
getting for a deal, but I was pleasantly surprised. They said they were
pretty certain that the Bosal sport stainless systems for the A2s were
made entirely of stainless, and then they quoted me a fantastic price
for one of the systems. To make a long story short (too late?) I ended
up with the cat and a stainless cat-back system for only a little more than
I would have paid online for a cat plus a nice aluminized system.
I went to pick up the system today, and was thrilled to see that it was not
only made entirely of stainless, but it was also completely polished and
used flanged connections! In this picture, you can see the whole system
laid out, along with the new 55mm cat:
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Date: 05/30/07, 19:56:13 PDT
From: Wade
Comments: Max, I just happened across your site today through the vwvortex. Amazing stuff. I immediately called Atlantic about a bosal stainless system for my 91 Golf upon seeing the pic of yours. And I'm in Canada. One question. Now that you've had it for 5.5 months, do you like it?????
Regards,
Wade
Date: 05/31/07, 06:06:02 PDT
From: Max
Comments: Hi Wade, it's great to hear from a fellow Vortexer! It's interesting you should mention the Bosal exhaust, recently I've been
thinking I should put up a post about my long-term experience with it. As
with any system that uses fiberglass-packed mufflers, the sound will
change over time as the exhaust "breaks in". It breaks, kind of like a
person's voice when they hit puberty. :) One day you'll be driving it
and notice "hey, this sounds a lot throatier than it did when I first
installed it". The stainless Neuspeed system we have on my wife's A3 Golf did the same thing (it sounds downright mean, actually). The Bosal
exhaust still sounds good, it's just not as quiet as it was. At partial
throttle it has a little bit of that "bumblebee" sound that you'd expect a
Honda with a fart-cannon to make, but when you give it full throttle it
really growls (very similar to the sound of a Subaru WRX exhaust,
strangely enough). Be aware that if you're going to install exactly the same system that I did, you will need to convert to a 55mm catalytic converter (that's the largest cat ever used on an A2 from the factory), and you may have to
alter some of the hangers and clearance your rear sub-frame (body brace,
whatever). I ordered the exhaust system as if it were for a 1991 8 valve
GTI, not a Golf GL (the Digifant GTIs had the bigger cats), because the
whole system was a little bigger in diameter that way. If, however, you
order the correct system for a 1991 Golf (non-GTI), you won't have to swap
the cat... but the exhaust system will be a slightly smaller diameter,
which means it may sound a little different than mine.
I really should put up a sound clip of our A2 and our A3. When you're
shopping for exhausts, it's nice to have an idea what it will sound like 6
months down the road.
Date: 08/10/07, 09:28:22 PDT
From: Wade
Comments: Max, good day man. Well, just got the bosal system installed earlier this week, along with a ceramic coated bosal header which I had already picked up from a fellow dubber in the USA. Installed a new cat at the same time. Went on with out a hitch. The header was a bitch. Turned the front hanger around so the system would hang properly. I must say, I'm a little disappointed in the sound, really no different than my stock system with no intermediate muffler. Maybe it's just me, however, at the same time I'm not a fan of loudish exhaust on little cars. I was looking for longevity and performance in the system.
Later man,
Wade
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A1 parts for sale:
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Item: Intake air pre-heat hose (from exhaust manifold shroud to air box), for Scirocco 2 (1982+)
Condition: New
$12
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A2 parts for sale:
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Item: GTI dual-round grille with inner lights, bulbs, and lower trim strip
Condition: Used, lower trim strip is weathered.
$35
Item: Parcel shelf strap, 3 available
Condition: New
$3.50 ea.
Item: 8 (eight) valve guides, German, standard size, for 8 valve head
Condition: New
$24
Item: Wheel cylinder (for rear drums, obviously), 2 available.
Condition: New
$12 ea.
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A3 parts for sale:
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Item: Parcel shelf strap, 3 available
Condition: New
$3.50 ea.
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A4 parts for sale:
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Item: OEM Water pump, ALH engines
Condition: Used, 130,000 miles
$20
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